The Truth Behind Religions, Mental Illnesses & Demonic Possessions!!

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rat spit's picture
Honest question, Cog. I’ve

Honest question, Cog. I’ve heard of bunghole as a noun. But what does it mean as a verb?

Cognostic's picture
Had to send you a PM on this

Had to send you a PM on this one.

rat spit's picture
Punishment is the OverLord’s

Punishment is the OverLord’s strong suit. Torture is what the Evil One does best. A subtle and slight difference. But yeah - just take a whole wack load of LSD and get way too high - so that you’re approaching the brink of insanity. And usually around this point either One or the Other will pop up and say hi.

danraleigh's picture
Hi All, I understand both are

Hi All, I understand both are very long write-ups. So people who read the entire text only can make a logical argument against it. Nice to hear from those who read it.

David Killens's picture
@Dan

@Dan

"Hi All, I understand both are very long write-ups. So people who read the entire text only can make a logical argument against it. Nice to hear from those who read it."

I stopped reading at the first unproven assumption. You need to build a solid foundation to put forth your conclusions. If any one of the legs of that foundation is not solid, then it is a waste of time to go any further.

danraleigh's picture
Let me try to put it this way

Let me try to put it this way. Though we reject the idea that God created this world, I'm stating that these Abrahamic religions are there due to a voice who claims to be the God and his angels. And people indeed heard these voices though someone could reject such ideas. After all, this is not hard to understand cause even today human beings are claiming that God is speaking to them.

https://youtu.be/H0i7epvw1dg

https://youtu.be/q97icDd_KDM

Researching into this phenomenon one could find so many cases where these voices are showing some kind of intelligence. Therefore, people have a reason to believe in these voices. However, analyzing these voices or claims of these people, one could easily understand that this cannot be the voice of God, therefore, views of atheists are also right.

If these voices are intelligent and if these voices can fool human beings to think that they are dealing with some kind of intelligent beings out there. What are these voices, is a reasonable question to ask. So do they have a mental illness? they being fooled by a technology? Or they are simply lying are some of the questions that we must ask.

Any of you have an absolute understanding that such a highly advanced technology cannot exist on Earth for such a long time that is far more advanced than to our current technology that we are aware of?

Don't forget that the UFO phenomenon is a real phenomenon and this phenomenon can be traced back to ancient times too. Just because UFO's are there, we cannot conclude that such technology must belong to aliens. In fact, such theories are contradicting when we analyze human experiences. So the question remains, some point in the past when our technologies were so advanced, did someone (a group of human beings) manage to depopulate the world and keep the technology within their families to rule the world? Which means, descendants of these families are still living among us, this is why we see UFOs and this is why we see the voice of God phenomenon on Earth.

https://youtu.be/pc9TbTiL5jQ

https://youtu.be/PWUCDHofEho

David Killens's picture
@Dan

@Dan

"I'm stating that these Abrahamic religions are there due to a voice who claims to be the God and his angels."

And I do not accept this proposition without proof. Your post is built on this assumption, for it to be valid this must be proven, not assumed.

Thinker's picture
They have computers in

They have computers in federal prisons? The last time I read a rant like this Ted Kaczynski was still free. Dont open a package from "Dan"...

danraleigh's picture
"And I do not accept this

"And I do not accept this proposition without proof. Your post is built on this assumption, for it to be valid this must be proven, not assumed."

I have to say that everyone is making an assumption only about these religions. Your view doesn't disprove my proposition. It's not possible to prove or disprove everything using the current scientific understanding that we have. That said, due to human views we are not logically thinking about this voice of God phenomenon. There's a voice who claims to be the God that is truly speaking to human beings. It's a phenomenon that actually exists in the world. And it's an intelligent phenomenon. A critical researcher would understand that someone is actually fooling human beings by claiming that he is the God. And that someone has been fooling human beings for such a long time. Understanding the UFO mystery will shed light into this.

Abrahamic religions are there due to a humongous crime on Earth. This is why these books are coded.

https://youtu.be/pJP129w84tk
https://youtu.be/OgYKPO_-GLU

I haven't seen that someone has done a proper research into this voice of God phenomenon. So without simply dismissing these human claims, we must do a proper investigation/research into this phenomenon and that will also shed us some light.

arakish's picture
There is a word for it.

There is a word for it. Schizophrenia.

rmfr

danraleigh's picture
@arakish, as a person who

@arakish, as a person who researched into the voice of God phenomenon, I can tell you that you are wrong. Voice of God phenomenon is an intelligent phenomenon than anyone thinks. This is why people should do some serious research into this. Here is another experience of a person:

https://youtu.be/ndd8Vay-AGk

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Dan

@ Dan

The only thing I find amazing about this video is that anyone in their right mind would take this seriously.

arakish's picture
@ Dan

@ Dan

And that is all nothing but hearsay. Hearsay is the absolute worst form of evidence. And that one word still applies.

If you were to say you hear the "voice of god" how am I to believe you. Accept your hearsay word? Sorry. It does not work like that. Until I see OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, then you are Schizophrenic.

rmfr

danraleigh's picture
Since you talked about

Since you talked about Schizophrenia, let me copy these abnormal voice hearing experiences. Again, don't forget that UFOs has been there on Earth for thousands and thousands of years and then we see these abnormal religious books and the existence of these books are voices. Do we know exactly what happened on Earth way back in the past?

CASE STUDY 1:

Following is a comment made by a VOICE HEARER, please see what the voices are saying,

http://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/thread36344.html

Voice hearer’s comment:

Raina Walks

“if i needed to get somewhere i did not know the directions to…they would literally lead me there without me having looked at a map…just with them directing me…it is heady stuff…”

CASE STUDY 2:

http://hvn.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=551

“The voices constantly told me they were never leaving, and that I’d have to learn to deal with it. They told me that our entire society is inside of a quantum computer, and that we are all just lab rats, being studied by their people. In particular, they told me that I was being “stress tested” to see how stress affected my memory. The voices constantly asked me questions about my memory and asked what medications I was taking, whenever I took pills. I could hear these voices clear as day, as if through a radio of some kind. On a few occasions, I actually saw people that correlated with the voices, faint visual hallucinations. Mind you, prior to all of this, I led a fairly normal life with no history of psychosis or mental disorders, except mild PTSD and ADD.”” “

CASE STUDY 3:

http://www.intervoiceonline.org/about-voices

“My subliminal voice always kept me safe at dangerous times and safe from dangerous people. I always seemed to know most events in advance, and this protected me and my family from nasty stuff. But the voice also made me lose almost my whole capital at the age of 40, and showed me that I could start from scratch. And I did. At the age of 53 I re-started to medidate and I experienced qi cong resonance within a month. This seemed to help me a lot with my health issues. I have been hearing the voice since the last 6 years, and the voice tells me exactly what will happen in the future in different parts of the world, and it also tells me what my colleagues are up to.”

CASE STUDY 4:

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-469466.html

ford442 29-10-2009, 08:41

“i have schizophrenia and i hear voices from time to time.. i find its easy on LSD to hear echoes of people’s voices you have heard recently.. like visual tracers – other senses leave the same brief sense memories.. hehe.. one time though the voices told me something i couldn’t have known – they informed me that the 9/11 attack was about to happen in new york.. ten days later it transpired… i don’t know what explains this – but it could have been something bleeding through from other living people’s thoughts i suppose..”

CASE STUDY 5:

http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2014/03/26/hearing-voices-in-your-head-audi...

Medy Santiago December 2, 2015, 9:51 am

“I started hearing voices when I was in the 5th grade and continued through out my adult life. The voices would tell me things that were going to happen and it exactly happened the way I heard. I also experienced visions when being awake. And what I saw in my vision, I saw exactly on later.”

CASE STUDY 6:

http://www.hearing-voices.org/voices-visions/comment-page-2/

“My voice gathers information from around the globe and gives me heads up months in advance for important events. Sometimes, it can be wrong in its deductions, but most of the time, my voice is right in its look-ahead exercises. I think my voice is telepathic across the collective voice. Family members, my husband, does not hear voices, he says, but they gave him schizo pills, cause he has a bit of paranoia. He saw the Japanese tsunami of 2011 in his dream, 5 months in advance. He reassured me that we were not in it. Thank God, it was true. I usually see the earthquakes and volcano eruptions.”

arakish's picture
All hearsay. No OBJECTIVE

All hearsay. No OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

I hear voices all the time. Does this mean I am hearing from god and/or it angels. Sorry. Again it don't work like that. Those voices are my mind playing tricks. Just as with your hearsay Schizophrenic supposed evidence. It ain't evidence except to prove Schizophrenia.

rmfr

danraleigh's picture
@ old man shouts at clouds,

@ old man shouts at clouds, that's a typical human being and I totally understand it. I would not fall into that category. Human beings will have to take these cases seriously our views/ beliefs are what's stopping us. We could become an intelligent atheist who would understand why believers are believing as well rather ridiculing them and ignoring them.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Dan

@ Dan

Did you read that word salad before posting it?

Nor am I ridiculing you, I am pointing out that anyone who believes the contents of a video produced in that manner...well I have a couple of bridges and a large ship to sell you.

Simply put, youtube, FTA TV and its clones has become the resort of the dodgy, the outre, the con men and flim flam boys. A dodgily produced video with some stock music and either a genuine nutter or an actor to play the lead and there you have it. It is proof of nothing but an intent to defraud. I have been approached to appear in a scripted web series of similar shows...I refused, but then I don't do hair restorative, conservative political, or banks, insurance companies and for profit medical insurance companies advertising either. They all have one thing in common, core dishonesty. .
That they gain a following and therefore money from the more credulous in our society is hardly surprising, but then religion has done the same for millennia as have the flim flam men, the snake oil salesmen and the con artists of every generation. Like all those pufferies the claims do not stand up to close examination.

Produce the guy who claims to have been told of the upcoming events, or the women who receives directions to unknown places, and subject them to a strictly controlled lab test..they will fail like all the others. They all will. That is why Randles prize went unclaimed and remains unclaimed to this day.

(edited to add directional woman claim)

arakish's picture
Old Man Re: "Did you read

Old Man Re: "Did you read that word salad before posting it?"

As CyberLN said, I think Dan forgot the dressing...

CyberLN's Razor: A nice vinaigrette dressing must be served with any word salad.

rmfr

David Killens's picture
Dan, all you have proven is

Dan, all you have proven is that the testimonies are all from people with mental health issues.

You need to provide real empirical proof to convince me.

rat spit's picture
Yeah Dan. Everyone knows you

Yeah Dan. Everyone knows you can’t trust a schizophrenic. They’ll lie to you; break your heart; steal your wallet; fuck your mom; max out your credit cards. Then they’ll tell you the voices made them do it.

danraleigh's picture
@ rat spit, you are simply

@ rat spit, you are simply disrespecting those people who are suffering without knowing anything of them. Today researchers understand that these voices are asking people to hurt themselves, hurt others as well. Maybe you should research more before making any conclusions on this.

@David, no, I did not take only the experiences of schizophrenics here. I took experiences of normal people to show that voices are showing some kind of intelligence that could fool people to believe that God is speaking to them.

Besides, if you consider the below experience as a mental illness, you have an issue with critical thinking:

http://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/thread36344.html

Voice hearer’s comment:

Raina Walks

“if i needed to get somewhere i did not know the directions to…they would literally lead me there without me having looked at a map…just with them directing me…it is heady stuff…”

David Killens's picture
@Dan

@Dan

“if i needed to get somewhere i did not know the directions to…they would literally lead me there without me having looked at a map…just with them directing me…it is heady stuff…”

That is just an unsubstantiated claim. Has that claim been tested? I would lend more credibility to this claim if it was tested. And this could be easily tested.

Dan, all you are throwing around are unsubstantiated claims.

danraleigh's picture
@David Killens, why do you

@David Killens, why do you think these people are not testing? It's because silly strong beliefs that people are having. Have you ever seen people done some serious research into the voice of God phenomenon?

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Dan

@ Dan

Have you ever seen people done some serious research into the voice of God phenomenon

There have been numerous studies into the "hearing of voices" since the 19th Century. here is a link to an article in "Psychology Today" https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/longing-nostalgia/201803/researc....

Note not one case has been recorded with the phenomena you have supplied Youtube clips as evidence for...that alone tells us something.

Hearing voices is very common, you seem to think that the Youtube videos you reference prove a world wide conspiracy to conceal the truth of 'magical' powers conferred upon the recipients...when not one mainstream or second tier news outlet has published a word? Do you not think that psychology today or the military would be testing these people under strict conditions?...and I can assure you they would not be let out to continue their lives as normal.

arakish's picture
Dan: "Why do you think these

Dan: "Why do you think these people are not testing? It's because silly strong beliefs that people are having. Have you ever seen people done some serious research into the voice of God phenomenon?"

While in college and taking the many psychology courses I took, such research is part of writing papers in those courses. ALL evidence points to Schizophrenia. Period. Exclamation Point!

All of you links are nothing but which provide nothing but hearsay from patients. There has been no scientific experimentation following the Scientific Method. Everything you have provided is not even a Hypothesis. Remember what a Hypothesis is? Yes, a Hypothesis can be said to be nothing more than a guess. However, that "guess" must also be testable; otherwise, it is not even a Hypothesis. The Hypothesis for the "voice of god" phenomena does exist. However, all evidence is nothing more than hearsay and only proves Schizophrenia.

And no ridicule needed.

rmfr

David Killens's picture
Because I am 99% certain that

Because I am 99% certain that if they were tested, it would be an absolute fail. Because if such claims are remotely possible, we would have more millionaires who won the lottery or in a casino. We would be able to find lost children with a high rate of success. We would be able to solve almost every crime.

Humans are opportunists, and if anyone came up with being able to extract valid and valuable information from voices in their head, they would use it. And since this is not happening, those tests that are being done on a daily basis are not yielding positive and consistent results.

We could set up a sterile and valid scientific process to test such a claim, but life itself is doing that. Of the many unfortunates that hear voices in their heads, I do not know of any who live full and happy lives.

rat spit's picture
http://www.dirkcorstens.com

http://www.dirkcorstens.com/hearing-voices-and-dissociation

Plenty of healthy people hearing voices, according to this study. 8 to 10 % of the world. Many won’t admit it due to stigma. Hell. Do you think I’d admit it anywhere else but here?

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Rat Spit

@ Rat Spit

According the Psychology Today article the percentages are a lot higher than that, particularly amongst college age young adults.

However the auditory hallucinations are very varied and I would surmise not from a single source when you look at the reported
studies, which kinda lets the overlord and sidekick become unique to you...

danraleigh's picture
@ old man shouts at clouds &

@ old man shouts at clouds & Rat Spit, just because the percentage of the voice hearers are high in the world, you cannot come to a conclusion that voice hearing is due to a mental illness or it's just a natural phenomenon on Earth. All these scenarios can be replicated using a technology and make you think that voice hearing is due to mental illness, demons, angels, aliens or even Gods.

That said, we can make a logical judgment on these cases by deeply analyzing how intelligent these voices are. Though you mentioned an article, you cannot find any research done by any person with an open mind whether these voices are making statements and those statements had information that is not known to the voice hearer. And discussed these cases with an open mind. For example, they should particularly analyze cases such as below and the number of samples or participants in this research who hear similar voices must be high. You will be surprised to see how many people would say that their voice convey knowledge/information that they never knew before and they were baffled by their intelligence. We could do a similar research particularly targeting the people who hear the voice of God and analyze the actual words that they hear.

“if i needed to get somewhere i did not know the directions to…they would literally lead me there without me having looked at a map…just with them directing me…it is heady stuff…”

“I started hearing voices when I was in the 5th grade and continued throughout my adult life. The voices would tell me things that were going to happen and it exactly happened the way I heard. I also experienced visions when being awake. And what I saw in my vision, I saw exactly on later.”

@arakish, if you have done the research that I mentioned above, please share your research, we could talk about it. I can confidently say neither you have done the research that I pointed out.

Even doctors are making an assumption only based on their current research. They don't have an absolute understanding of what causes voice hearing. You can find so many voice hearing cases that contradict the biochemical imbalance theory.

David Killens's picture
@Dan

@Dan

" You can find so many voice hearing cases that contradict the biochemical imbalance theory."

Please provide a few examples that can be independently verified. You made a claim, please back it up.

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