Sometimes, I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturaly, with no god.
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And basicly almost all things on Nikon's "Small World in Motion"
https://www.nikonsmallworld.com/galleries/2018-small-world-in-motion-com...
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Everything follows the laws of physics. It is not a mystery. Some objects just please our aesthetic senses by it's symmetry.
The solution is to learn why such structures form.
@Coda-Beta 1234
"Sometimes, I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturally, with no god."
Welcome, good to see you've jumped in. .
Not certain, but I think you've managed two logical fallacies in one sentence
(1) Too complex for anything else therefore god; God of the Gaps
(2) I don't understand therefore god : argument from ignorance
There's also more than a hint of the teleological argument. EG :The watchmaker's argument, intelligent design and the sneaky irreducible complexity argument
Don't mind me, I can be a bit pedantic at times. BUT I don't even pretend to be always right.I make mistakes and get confused because I'm old.
It is an objective fact that the material physical world and universe exist, including organic life, and it is an objective fact that natural phenomena exist, now since you are adding a deity, what objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity?
Occam's razor applies.
Code-Beta1234. “ I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturaly, with no god.”
It’s easy. Invisible snowflake god creates snowflakes in its image...
"Sometimes, I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturaly, with no god."
Read some books on biology, chemistry, and physics.
Stop wondering. Start learning.
Start using the brain your 'god' gave you, Do you never ponder how immensely complex your brain is and how much trouble your 'god' went to make it to help you understand just precisely how phenonmenal the universe you imagine your 'god' made really is and that you might be pissing him off because you're not using it to do anything else than simply wonder and ask meaningless questions on atheist debate forums?
Are you certain there wont be a general knowledge test to get into heaven? I imagine for the ultimate prize of eternal life the test wont be multiple choice. Ready?
Edited...oh apologies to CB1234...your question sounded so much like a theist enquiry...in any case read up.
@OP
Thank god you are an atheist. :D
If you were not, cognitive dissonance would not allow you to obtain the knowledge needed to understand snowflakes.
@ Code-Beta1234
Microscopic World and Creation
Sometimes, I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturally, with no god.
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It's like the supposed difference between 'macro' and 'micro' evolution ~ there is none. Macro evolution, (if we want to use that term), is just loads of micro evolution, (if we want to use THAT term), laid end-to-end. "Macro" evolution = "micro" evolution re-iterated. Accepting "micro" evolution it, then it is also reasonable to accept "macro" evolution. From little things, big things grow.
So too, the marvellous things which are alive and revealed via Nikon micrography, are found in just as amazingly complex arrangements, in much bigger animals. Get a microscope on any part of the human body, and marvellous and possibly unexpected intricacy will probably be revealed.
And if you looked into the biochemistry, some amazingly complex and intricate chemical pathways are found, in living things of all sizes.
And all of that is arrived at by "micro" evolution, blindly finding solutions to the problems thus solved.
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Mutorc. ;-}
@Coda-Beta: RE: ""Sometimes, I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturally, with no god."
How is it the video you posted does not answer your question? Did you see a God in anything you posted?
How is it, you can witness everything occurring naturally and then leap wildly into the unknown by asserting a God done it? Where is the sense in that?
Re: OP and snowflakes
How can something so complex be made without a god?... Well, obviously, none of you brainiacs have ever heard of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" or "Horton Hears A Who"... Duh!...
Tin man
How can something so complex be made without a god?... Well, obviously, none of you brainiacs have ever heard of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" or "Horton Hears A Who"... Duh!..
Indeed.
AND they have never had one of my curries or my lasagna la forno della nona, which took me 20 years to develop---------
Gods?
Well, I quite like Ganesh because he's so cool. But my favourite is Thor. I like him because he carries a fucking great hammer, whereas the wussy Christian got himself nailed to a tree. Like to see how far they would have got trying that on Thor.
OF course the coolest thing of all about my favourite gods is that like the one god of the christians, there is absolutely no evidence of their existence.
@cranky47
Thor had his wussy side too. He let a giant steal his hammer, and he had to trade his wife to get it back. But instead of delivering his wife to the wedding ceremony, he went himself in drag and tricked the giant into handing back the hammer. Funnily enough, the giant never twigged that the bearded ruffian in the bride's dress who ate a whole ox was not the lovely Freya but her horrible hairy husband.
I like the pagan gods. They have foibles and humor. There's not a single scrap of humor in the whole Xtian myth.
Thor rode in a chariot pulled by goats. Not exactly a manly and tough mode of transport. Now pair of grizzly bears, that would be epic.
Have you smelt a Norwegian goat...its the very definition of masculine
Old Man Shouts: Thanks!
@Code-Beta1234 I wonder how is it possible for these things to came naturaly, with no god.
They are the undesigned products of the laws of physics. Water droplets freeze into hexagonal crystals as they fall. The growth of patterns along the six arms is determined by temperature and humidity. They're all unique because no two flakes are exposed to exactly the same conditions as they fall.
You should also look at the curved shells of snails and shellfish, the arrangement of seeds in a sunflower. Nature is full of beautiful crystal patterns and Finonacci sequences.
It's all physics. No god is required. But it does take a human mind to appreciate any of it, and to imagine design where there is none.
Edit: That should be "fibonacci" sequences. The QWERTY keyboard is a device of Satan.
@Algebe
Very old joke;
Thor is racing through the clouds, yelling "I'm Thor! I'm Thor!"
To which a local nymph replies ' OF COURSE you're thor thilly, you haven't got your thaddle on!"
@Cranky47:
In my Dad's version of that one, which he picked up while serving in Dad's Army, Thor gets up from the bed yelling I'm Thor!.
The nymph replies: Yeth. Tho am I. But it wath worth it!
@Algebe
"The nymph replies: Yeth. Tho am I. But it wath worth it!"'
Original ,told to me by my girlfriend at the time. The nymph replies 'YOU'RE thor ? I'm so thor I can hardly pith. "
Fuckin’ invisible snowflake god!!!! Wait until my sun god gets stronger!!!
Edited to add....Ny! Nylar!!!
Edited to add again: thank you :)
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1. This is an argument from incredulity fallacy.
2. We only have objective evidence for natural causes, so it is an objective fact they are possible.
3. There is no objective evidence for any deity, or any supernatural causes.
4. You're adding something you can't demonstrate any objective evidence for, using magic you can't explain, or evidence and that has no explanatory powers, and claiming this addition is more believable that an as yet unknown natural cause which we know as an objective fact are possible.
5. Your claim is also an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, it's a god of the gaps polemic.