Islam is the self proclaimed religion of peace. This is what happens when people believe in nonsense

Here's what one of the Muslim leaders said about the suicide bomber.
"At the mosque, Mohammed Saeed El-Saeiti, the imam at the Didsbury mosque yesterday branded Abedi an dangerous extremist. “Salman showed me the face of hate after my speech on Isis,” said the imam. “He used to show me the face of hate and I could tell this person does not like me. It’s not a surprise to me.”
Salman visited the mosque on a number of occasions to pray, but the imam insisted “he was not my friend, he is not close. I could understand that he was not happy with me because I did combat Isis in that Friday sermon sometimes”.

The imam added: “When he passed by me, we Muslims greet each other and you know he is not happy with me if he doesn’t greet you.”

We have to be careful not to lump all muslims with extremist like this because they are not the enemy and radicals would love it if they think they have that much power.

I watched the coverage of this tragedy throughout the day on BBC and CNN. Without a doubt, this was a heinous event.

However, so are the military actions taking place in Syria and Iraq in which it is estimated that 1,000 civilians were killed by USA-led coalition military forces. Why didn't these deaths receive the same air time as the 22 killed in Manchester?

Is it because those killed were dark-skinned? Were the civilian lives lost in Syria and Iraq not as important as the white-skinned people killed in Manchester? Isn't one child's life cut short due to violence -- regardless of where it took place -- a tragedy and a tale of the state of mankind?

Western hegemony doesn't even bother to hide its blatant racism anymore.

Details are emerging about U.S.-led coalition airstrikes that are believed to have killed over 200 people in a single day in Iraq. The U.S.-led coalition has admitted launching airstrikes on March 17 targeting a crowded neighborhood in Mosul. They are among the deadliest U.S. airstrikes in the region since the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. According to some reports, one of these strikes destroyed houses where hundreds of people were taking refuge amid the city’s heavy fighting. Up to 80 civilians, including women and children, may have died in one house’s basement alone. This bombing is just one of an onslaught of U.S.-led coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria that has killed as many as 1,000 civilians in March alone, according to the journalistic project Airwars. For more, we speak with Chris Woods, founder of Airwars, a nonprofit group that monitors civilian deaths from international airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.

Source: https://www.democracynow.org/2017/3/27/more_than_1_000_civilians_killed

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/theodore-shoebat-victims-of-mancheste...
This makes me sick

You just nerd to stop welcoming in millions of terrorists.

@ Charlie

"@Pita //That's on the order of insanity and it's becoming endemic in the Muslim world where their reality leaves them with nothing to lose. That's a prime target for imagination to take hold...

Are you trying to paint a target on the back's of every Muslim's out there mate.. To stereo type Muslim's in this manner is no different than accusing all white people as racist.. Muslim is a description of race, not religion or anything else.."

I'm painting every last Muslim who has demonstrated a terrorist act as a terrorist. I don't think you can read into what I carefully placed in print an accusation that every Muslim is a terrorist. Those are your words so they must be your thoughts and, as such, the way you think. Please, do yourself a favor and try not to be so transparent next time you throw stones at your world.

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Military actions and terrorist actions are distinct is what manner? I don't see one. They set goals and achieve them. The messages they are attempting to convey by exhibiting such extreme intent are pretty much mundane and inarguably selfish. Whether the individual army of one is looking to carry out a personal war against, oh, let's say the compass heading of west, and cobbles up the means and a set of gonads to see it through what has the world lost and what has he gained? No one is going to stop being in or traveling to the west and he will be forgotten in fifteen minutes. Escalate his selfishness by exampling the same act with an army of ten thousand. What is the outcome if not the same? The outcome difference will be one paragraph dedicated to him and maybe a couple pages dedicated to the army in the history books. No one gains, everyone loses but guess what?

Humanity is a species of losers and everything it does evidences that. There's no resolution for that trait, either. People do not really care if people die. No one can convince me they care if some stranger loses his life to the extent that he'd risk his own to save the stranger. That would be convincing but that kind of altruism is non-existent in man's psyche. Military members have been cited for it in the heat of combat but none of the people they're risking themselves for are strangers. Those people are their buds, their brothers in arms and in many instances the people they consider family. Die to save a stringer? Not a human desire much less a trait.

So why all the fake altruism flowing all sticky and gooey on this thread?

Because people love to pretend they're better than that and talk shit. In the heat of the risk looming bold, large and in your face all of you will find your feet and scream like banshees in full retreat pleading for mercy. This is known because its been witnessed since time immemorial from people running full tilt away from the onslaught of the world's conquering hordes. In our time ISIS would have mowed you down without compassion, relieved your corpse of everything of value and tossed it off the road as a monument to themselves. But, that's not just ISIS.

Name every nation that has ever entered into battle that recruited and trained the most dim witted grunts to fight a ground battle and you would see the same reaction to death from them. How many soldiers brought home artifacts from their battles? All of them. That Nazis ceremonial dagger relieved from an WWII German officer's corpse that you remember lying on your grandpa's mantlepiece? How'd he get it in the first place? But, he's your grandpa. He couldn't have been like that!! Right. He might be your hero but he killed people.

My own Pop mowed down innocent groups of women and children North Korea's soldiers hid behind in attempts to retreat. Ever see what one 50-calibre (0.50") bullet does to a person? Being mostly liquid, it makes them explode like a water balloon. In the military we called it the Pink Mist. His airplane had 6 of those 50-caliber machine guns and he used them to mow people down in the thousands with no consciousness other than to complete his assigned Air Force missions. He could clearly see his bullets disintegrating those people in his gun sight with each firing pass. That was in 1952, he was 29 years old. Same guy was a family man and a kind old grandpa to my sons.

Don't even tell me people are ready to save strangers lives by risking their own. Like on this forum, they're all talk and that won't even buy a cup of lousy coffee at Starbucks.

Killing is fun. It has to be because it's been turned into a technological achievement, an art form, a religion and a paycheck. That covers the gamut from science, to art, to worship and to a basic household income.

The demographic of the war-torn areas of the world have reduced the preciousness of life down to nothing. When it's coupled with a religion that promotes killing with eternal reward it becomes easy to be persuaded to kill and die for it. The Muslim religion, in particular, rewards this kind of behavior by promising to take care of your surviving family for life. Whether you believe in the religious promises awaiting you in the after life or not, you go to your death knowing that it will bring a better life to your family than you could provide for them in life. This is a huge motivator when your normal livelihood has been made impossible by war, conscription and separation from your family.

Then there are the zealots, the individuals who have absolutely no horse in the race, live thousands of miles from the war zones and have stable, comfortable and meaningful lives waiting for them. Then, inexplicably, they blow themselves up in peaceful, populated places with horrible collateral damage and for what possible gain? If not by suicide, they drive a truck into a gathering or wield a gun or detonate IEDs. This is plain cowardice.

So, we have frequent military and terror acts killing people with equal intent and resolve. The military will attempt to exonerate itself by whatever rhetoric it scripts. The terror merchants spew the same crap. It comes down to only one thing: Killing is fun. People love their fun so I doubt dubious words of righteousness from this place or any others are going to convince fun seekers of the errors of their ways because, simply stated, they aren't wrong and they know it.

Humans have no purpose, act like they do, promote themselves as important, kill to prove it and if killing to prove it is acceptable then killing for no reason at all is licensed.

Manchester victim mom pleads for unity.
https://youtu.be/B5XES1za7cY