Flat Earth Debate/ Firmament in Bible

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Flat Earth Debate/ Firmament in Bible

My brother made me watch this video and i wanted your opinions on it. It talks about how the earth is flat and that its actually a firmament to the heavens. I also want to know if you agree with any of it

https://youtu.be/aQ7_9eIAlT4

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chimp3's picture
Anybody that supports a flat

Anybody that supports a flat earth is a dumbass and does not deserve a moment of my attention.

arakish's picture
Flat Earth Debate/ Firmament

Flat Earth Debate/ Firmament in Bible

I also want to know if you agree with any of it.

No.

rmfr

MrHolbyta's picture
We've known the Earth is

We've known the Earth is round since at least ca 240 BCE when Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference within about 10-15% of its actual value. He did this without leaving Egypt. This has only been more confirmed by other things we learn. Hell, you can actually see the ISS orbiting Earth with your naked eye.

Sheldon's picture
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algebe's picture
@SomeGuy1337

@SomeGuy1337

Here in the Southern Hemisphere we see a completely different night sky from what's visible in the Northern Hemisphere. How do you explain that? Are Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina, etc., all on the B side of your Disc World?

In 1965, I traveled by ship from England to New Zealand. The 12,000 mile journey took a month. We never hit a wall at the edge of the world. Every day noon slipped back by about 30 minutes from GMT until we crossed the International Date Line. The constellations changed. We saw Venezuela, Curacao, Panama, Pitcairn Island, and New Zealand rise up over the horizon, starting with hills, then forests, then buildings near the waterfront.

But by all means carry on believing your flat earth nonsense. If you'll believe the Jesus myth, you'll believe anything.

Ramo Mpq's picture
I simply do not understand

I simply do not understand how even after all the evidence we have people still think or believe the earth is flat.

(let's see who's the first to reply by tying my comment to religion)

Tin-Man's picture
@Searching for Truth Re: "

@Searching for Truth Re: "(let's see who's the first to reply by tying my comment to religion)"

Oo-oo-oo! Me-me-me!!!.....*raising both hands and jumping up and down wildly*...

Turning this into religion, all I have to say is, "How in the Holy Hell can anybody believe the Earth is flat?" Ta-daaaaah!.... *taking a bow*

arakish's picture
ROFLMAO rmfr

ROFLMAO

rmfr

mickron88's picture
they believe the earth is

they believe the earth is flat because their brain is?...is that why they believe earth flat is right?

flat brain?

JazzTheist's picture
I further conclude that the

I further conclude that the reason for their flat brain is that they are Flatlanders in disguise, trying to invade our three-dimensional reality. I can prove it:

1. Flatlanders have flat brains.
2. Flat-Earthers have flat brains.
3. Flat-Earthers are Flatlanders.

Oops...nevermind, I accidentally used theist logic.

mickron88's picture
so..that means they deny when

so..that means they deny when teachers/professors demonstrate it in a classroom globe figure?

they only see half of the globe not entirely of it right?...amazing...

JazzTheist's picture
I think it's because they

I think it's because they want to sin. I don't know...maybe it's because their teacher smacked them with a globe or something.

mickron88's picture
does the creator of the movie

does the creator of the movie "flatliners" believe that earth is flat?

i'm sorry...if i'm flat minded...at least i'm not narrow minded right? flat is fine that narrow

JazzTheist's picture
Well, that depends on what

Well, that depends on what you mean by na--HOLD ON!!! Waaaait a second...

1. The movie ''Flatliners'' had a creator.
2. The movie ''Flatliners'' was filmed on the planet Earth.
3. Planet Earth had a creator.

OMG...there really is a God after all!!!

mickron88's picture
"OMG...there really is a God

"OMG...there really is a God after all!!!"

yeah..and i can't believe i'm talking to a squid...and in fact i'm not aquaman..and yet here we are.

earlier i was talking to a tree now im talking to squidward.

spongebob i know you're real...but not god...if god is real...how come mr. squid can talk?

JazzTheist's picture
''if god is real...how come

''if god is real...how come mr. squid can talk?''

Oh yeah? There are talking snakes and talking donkeys in the Bible! I can talk too, so?

''now im talking to squidward.''

Squidward is nothing but a dumb octopus. Pffff, octopuses...I totally didn't evolve from them!

mickron88's picture
ohh..now i know....*meh

ohh..now i know....*meh emotion*

anyway...back to the flat earthlings..i mean flat tires...ohh what the fuck is wrong with me now i can't even say their names...

wait a minute i all this time i thought you were an octopus man...jeezz..are you?

Ramo Mpq's picture
@SomeGuy1337,

@SomeGuy1337,

Did you really watch a 62 mins video on a flat earth? You, sir have the patience of a saint lol

Tin-Man's picture
@Searching for Truth Re:

@Searching for Truth Re: "Did you really watch a 62 mins video on a flat earth? You, sir have the patience of a saint lol"

Dag-nabbit, Hulkster, I do believe you and I actually agree on something here. LOL

arakish's picture
Well. Bummer. I did watch

Well. Bummer. I did watch the whole thing.

Besides, I did have some good laughs...

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@Arakish

@Arakish

In the immortal words of our Hulkster friend, "Sir, you have the patience of a saint."

arakish's picture
Yeah, it was the good laughs

Yeah, it was the good laughs I had and kept me going...

rmfr

algebe's picture
@Searching for truth

@Searching for truth

All you need to watch is the opening sequence--the words "ODD TV" floating out of a cloud of colored smoke. I'm in favor of truth in advertising.

arakish's picture
I know one thing. If that is

I know one thing. If that is a real antenna the guy is climbing at 4:40 to 5:22, then that guy is the bravest son of a ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ7_9eIAlT4&t=280s

DAMN!

rmfr

Kataclismic's picture
No no, the Earth is round, it

No no, the Earth is round, it's the moon that's flat, and it proves that shadows are curved.

LogicFTW's picture
Yes, the earth is flat.

Yes, the earth is flat.

The skies make enough water out of thin air that it can support the lost of trillions of gallons a second, every second for 4.5 billion years.

Well make that 6000 years we all know earth is really only 6000 years old right?!

Am I right or am I RITE?

All the airlines actually cleverly installed screens on all the plane windows that never glitch or fail. So when we get up to 35,000 feet and see the slight curve, it is really just hollywood special effects, even back in the 60's!

When we fly across the pacific, really we just fly east instead of west, and cross the Atlantic to get to Japan. They have special planes that seem exactly the same but can fly 3 times faster, and have special noise dampeners so we do not notice the sonic boom.

The lunar eclipse is actually a massive effort by world governments to trick you into thinking the world is round but actually they fly to the moon and cover it with a giant black blanket that is curved to try and convince you that the earth is indeed a sphere.

Large ships at sea are actually amphibious and they rise out of the water slowly, also another trick by the evil governments to trick you into thinking the world is round, but really they just build all large ships that can be seen from the shore to be secretly submersible.

The various star constellations are actually just really bright lights way up in space that people move around, again in effort to trick you into thinking the world was round.

People that measure shadows in different places are simply just lying to trick you into thinking the world is round.

The other planets in the solar system that you can see with a good telescope are totally flat too, they just look like spheres, the great storm on jupiter that disappears and reappears like it would on a ball is actually just sliding along the bottom of the flat disc. The moons only look like they are revolving around jupiter.

Time zones are just a giant trick. Not sure how they pull that one off, but somehow they do. Trust me the earth is really flat.

And ofcourse all images from space are just photoshopped.

Tin-Man's picture
No offense, SomeGuy, but I

No offense, SomeGuy, but I really don't have the time (nor the inclination) to watch an hour-long video about somebody trying to prove the Earth is flat. Pretty simple, really. Anybody who has ever flown commercial airliners has only to look out the window of the aircraft once it reaches cruising altitude and - Lo and behold! - the curve of the Earth is right there in plain sight. Speaking of flying, I can tell you from experience and many hours of flight training, one has to take the curve of the Earth into consideration when plotting courses across country, because there are variations in the compass headings depending on how far north or south of the equator you go. And for anybody who has ever had to do land navigation, the same principle applies. With that in mind, I have always been curious as to whether or not any of the "flat earthers" have ever travelled any further than the city limits of their own hometowns. It baffles the brain.

(Now to go see what everybody else has posted about this.)

David Killens's picture
I am not going to waste an

I am not going to waste an hour of my life watching a video put out by nutcases. About a year ago I joined a flat earth forum, but after reading a lot of posts the only conclusion I could reach was that most in there were just plain nuts.

Everything about the globe theory is supported by other sciences, and everything can be logically explained. For flat earthers, they have to invent ludicrous excuses and magic to explain phenomena.

Sky Pilot's picture
Maybe the new Earth described

Maybe the new Earth described in Revelation chapter 21 is flat. There's no sun or moon and there's no night. That would work if the planet is flat. The lack of seas indicate that the place has some weird gravity, especially since the city is 1,500 miles in height.

arakish's picture
At 1500 miles (2414

At 1500 miles (2414 kilometers (I understand Metric better)), you would definitely see the curvature of the Earth then if were at the top.

rmfr

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