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@Fish hook Re: Shot officer analogy
You obviously know Z... E... R... O... about investigations and forensic procedures in regards to officer-involved shootings. Lucky for you, however, I happen to be intimately familiar with such matters, having personally been involved with a few such incidents during my career. Sadly, your little "scenario" would not even work for a low-budget B-List movie. Usually I would tell somebody, "Nice try, though." In this case, however... *sucking air through teeth*... Ummmm, gee, I'm sorry.... *shaking head sadly*... I simply cannot give you that much credit. You really should consider coming up with a better and less complicated analogy.
As for your god....
1. You have YET to define him/her/it, despite numerous requests. And...
2. According to YOU, EVERYTHING that exists HAD TO HAVE a cause, and was thus created..... EXCEPT FOR your particular god character. Hmmmm.... Double standard much?
@drycrustyfishboy
LOL...well that is just funny. When us poor non-believers ask for evidence, we are asking for evidence of your gods existence...so far, you have not yet produced any. Do you have any?
Please don't forget that the evidence needed, needs to be objective evidence...the only type evidence that holds up to existence in reality.
...and please do not include buybull quotes as reference for evidence, as the buybull is not evidence of existence.
Thank you...come again.
@minnowboy
"Much in the same way, Indra is the existing One. she IS, and she has made creation, and is not confined to time and space as we are. She is the cause, creation is the effect.
Indra didn't start to exist, but is the existing One. She does not need creation in order for herself to exist, but rather, creation needs her."
There you go, I fixed the last few sentences for you, to represent the "real truth", "the one"...as suggested by others.
Huh, this seems to present an issue for your god, does it not? Maybe you can help your god by showing his existence in reality via some demonstrable objective evidence...that way, you can secure your version of a god, to be the one true god...and secure a nobel peace prize simultaneously.
What do you think? That seems logical does it not?
Thank you, come again.
And Pandora’s Box. I don’t rule anything out (rolling eyes)
@FishNChips007
What an utterly facile story, you seem unaware that police forensic methods use ballistic analysis, and would have ruled out the gun you claimed was used in the shooting.
You have given no evidence at all, not one shred. You have from the start used a fallacious first cause polemic, which is not evidence, and even were we to accept your fallacious subjective claims as evidence, they do not evidence a deity at all.
Evidence your claim please, just where did you secure "nothing" from, in order to test this claim you keep asserting?
Wow, seven unevidenced claims in tandem, and of course a begging the question fallacy, this is a known fallacy in informal logic, where someone makes an argument, then makes assumptions in that argument about the very thing they are arguing for.
Again I ask, since you keep ignoring my question, what objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity?
FYI, an argument is not objective evidence.
FishNChips007: Your position is completely idiotic. I would tell you what some of the people on this site do or have done for a living for the past 30 or 40 years but that would violate the rules of the site and confidentiality. Your assertions are juvenile and inane. You would not know a "FACT" if it jumped up and bit you in the ass. You have offered no facts, no evidence and absolutely nothing of substance. All you have done is make inane assertions, present fallacious tired and worn out apologetics, and demonstrated your inability to understand the very basics of logic or rational thought.
"God Is?" Demonstrate it.
"God made creation." Demonstrate it.
You have something seriously wrong with your ability to reason. The mark of an insane person is one who repeats the same thing over and over and over again and expects a different result. You need help!
@FishNChips007
"You ask for evidence. I have given you evidence. It is impossible for nothing to create everything."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"It is impossible for nothing to create everything" is not "evidence", bruh. That's just a sentence. I could be wrong but I also think that sentence has been demonstrated to be false in some cases.
You really need to understand the difference between "evidence" and "bare assertions".
It is a bare assertion, and you're correct FishNChips007 does need to understand that this is not evidence. As something coming from nothing, I have only ever heard theists make assertions about this,, which they dishonestly assign to atheists in attempt to reverse the burden of proof, this is of course an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.
@FishNChips007
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Ahem?
@fishcult
What he said...
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(doG gives sheldon a shot of propofol, chased up with some lorazepam.)
There’s a movie we can watch!!!! Let me guess - I predict...
There will be scenes of natural disasters
Scenes of war
People “running in confusion” throwing Molotov cocktails...
Scenes of beauty and nature ... quiet and peaceful....you know the way it was suppose to be and (drum roll) will be again... after (insert whatever you need first, rapture, Armageddon, antichrist - whatever)
That’ll basically be about it.
@White
Oh yeah,"The Rapture",and the end of days, the idea of which has embarrassed most christian for centuries.
Christianity began as a millenarian cult. First century disciples expected Jesus to return within their lifetime .I guess it was pretty unfair of them for accepting Jesus at his word. The gospels report him as saying he would return, before some of his disciples had died, and 'soon".
Unlike today's loopy literalist evangelicals, when JC didn't show up, people were really upset. Doctrine was rapidly changed to the end of days being redefined as at some vague ,indeterminate time in the future and quietly dropped.
While I was a practising Catholic, there were two special areas of embarrassment; the end of days and The Book of Revelations,. This embarrassment was managed by ignoring those topics. ,IF raised at school, the teacher would mumble something and change the subject. As an adult it bemused me that Catholics were/are not embarrassed by the Marian cult. The claims about Jesus' mum, Miriam simply cannot survive the most casual scrutiny -----I won't even get started on that stunning bit of hubris of declaring a people saints***
I still think Fishy posting that tripe was self promotion, of his beliefs. Ah well, that's why we have moderators.
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In Catholic doctrine, by definition, a saint is simply a person who is in heaven with god. Going by modern theology, that would include all people who have ever died. (the concept of an eternal hell is a Christian invention)
@Whitefire Re: "There’s a movie we can watch!!!! Let me guess - I predict..."
Oh, gee, THANKS, White!... *rolling eyes*... Hey, everybody! SPOILER ALERT! White just totally ruined the whole damn movie for us! No need to bother watching it now!... *walking away mumbling to self*... Looks like another night of binge-watching reruns of "Chico and the Man"...
@Cranky...at least, Catholics had a sense of embarrassment- JW’s following in their founding “footsteps” of the Millerites proudly proclaim the last days and blindly for tell the “end” which is always imminent ...however since 1975 dates are no longer “set in stone” but strongly hinted at for plausible deniability.
@FishNChips007
No one knows the answer to both of your questions. You don't even know. Does that mean you can prove your god is real?
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